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	<description>Estd. in Ireland, July 2002</description>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-183029</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone's interested, check the records at the LA County Clerk's Office. Although he lives in Marin County now, he lived for a long time in Pacific Palisades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone&#8217;s interested, check the records at the LA County Clerk&#8217;s Office. Although he lives in Marin County now, he lived for a long time in Pacific Palisades.</p>
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		<title>By: adaware</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-118625</link>
		<dc:creator>adaware</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We recommend you to visit excellent <a href="http://adaware.aj77.com/" rel="nofollow">adaware</a> site. qY0ptan0x</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-86888</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 02:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congress ya!!!</description>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-59780</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-59696</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interessing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interessing</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Helgesen</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Helgesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gavin - the solution is simple - and elegant.

No need to apologize, just reposition your original post.

What the fake Doc objects to, on your blog, is the word (and link) fraud

That word, verbatim, is contained in the linked blog document.

So merely issue a correction, to the effect that he is reported to be a fraud

Now you are stating a fact, and therefore not libeling the fraudster, technically.

I would, if I were you, blow this up again and again - report the fact of the reported characterization as a fraud - then lay out all the facts, and exhort your readers to decide, based on the facts, whether the guy, in their own, privileged opinions, is a fraud, or should be commended as a legitimate Ph.D and held in the adoring light he heretofore enjoyed.


On that basis, there is no defamation, and no issue of liability on your part, but you will be continuing your very worthwhile campaign to expose and defrock the fraudster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gavin - the solution is simple - and elegant.</p>
<p>No need to apologize, just reposition your original post.</p>
<p>What the fake Doc objects to, on your blog, is the word (and link) fraud</p>
<p>That word, verbatim, is contained in the linked blog document.</p>
<p>So merely issue a correction, to the effect that he is reported to be a fraud</p>
<p>Now you are stating a fact, and therefore not libeling the fraudster, technically.</p>
<p>I would, if I were you, blow this up again and again - report the fact of the reported characterization as a fraud - then lay out all the facts, and exhort your readers to decide, based on the facts, whether the guy, in their own, privileged opinions, is a fraud, or should be commended as a legitimate Ph.D and held in the adoring light he heretofore enjoyed.</p>
<p>On that basis, there is no defamation, and no issue of liability on your part, but you will be continuing your very worthwhile campaign to expose and defrock the fraudster.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawq</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To minimize legal headaches, insert the word "allegedly".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To minimize legal headaches, insert the word &#8220;allegedly&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Barefoot</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Barefoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a lawyer, but here is an arguement you may try...
the lawyers letter says this guy's degree is from a "State of California-approved" institution.  Notice that he does not use the word "Accredited" as you do in your blog.  "approved", "licenced", and "accredited" have vastly different meaning in the world of academics.  Generally, a college should be both licensed/approved AND accredited.

If a school doesn't use the word accredited, it usually means they are not...i.e. a second-rate school, often a degree mill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a lawyer, but here is an arguement you may try&#8230;<br />
the lawyers letter says this guy&#8217;s degree is from a &#8220;State of California-approved&#8221; institution.  Notice that he does not use the word &#8220;Accredited&#8221; as you do in your blog.  &#8220;approved&#8221;, &#8220;licenced&#8221;, and &#8220;accredited&#8221; have vastly different meaning in the world of academics.  Generally, a college should be both licensed/approved AND accredited.</p>
<p>If a school doesn&#8217;t use the word accredited, it usually means they are not&#8230;i.e. a second-rate school, often a degree mill.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a lawyer either, but it seems to me if Gray's lawyer himself isn't using the word "accredited," it means in effect there is no dispute -- you never claimed CPU wasn't "approved."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a lawyer either, but it seems to me if Gray&#8217;s lawyer himself isn&#8217;t using the word &#8220;accredited,&#8221; it means in effect there is no dispute &#8212; you never claimed CPU wasn&#8217;t &#8220;approved.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to Paul's comment, it is defamatory to restate a falsehood as if true without correction, even if you are quoting someone else.  Simply retract the "fraud" claim and restate the facts.  The facts are embarrassing enough.
ANON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to Paul&#8217;s comment, it is defamatory to restate a falsehood as if true without correction, even if you are quoting someone else.  Simply retract the &#8220;fraud&#8221; claim and restate the facts.  The facts are embarrassing enough.<br />
ANON.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An administrator at a college I worked at got one of those diplomas from Columbia Pacific University. It was a running joke around campus. I don't think anybody ever has to "register" for any classes there. Rather, they give you "credit for life experience". You pay them money, and they issue you a diploma.

Now to be honest, doctorates outside the hard sciences really don't mean much any more no matter what institution issues them. What should more embarrassing for Gray is all those years he spent as the Maharishi's gofer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An administrator at a college I worked at got one of those diplomas from Columbia Pacific University. It was a running joke around campus. I don&#8217;t think anybody ever has to &#8220;register&#8221; for any classes there. Rather, they give you &#8220;credit for life experience&#8221;. You pay them money, and they issue you a diploma.</p>
<p>Now to be honest, doctorates outside the hard sciences really don&#8217;t mean much any more no matter what institution issues them. What should more embarrassing for Gray is all those years he spent as the Maharishi&#8217;s gofer.</p>
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		<title>By: undrdog</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>undrdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the website of the Maharishi (the Maharishi of Maharishi European Research University fame), the school was not founded until 1975. [http://www.alltm.org/Maharishi/Maharishi_year2.html] John Gray, according to his lawyer's letter, received both his Bachelor's and Master's degrees from that university with the latter being obtained in October 1977.  This means that between 1975, when the university was founded, and October 1977, he earned both degrees. It must have had those courses you could learn in your sleep.

As to Columbia Pacific University, the article discussing its shutdown plus a phone call to the appropriate State department should clarify whether what was published is accurate or not. In any event, John Gray really does not want the negative publicity that a suit against a blogger could bring, especially since smoke almost always leads to fire in the case of someone who has gone to two, not just one, diploma mills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the website of the Maharishi (the Maharishi of Maharishi European Research University fame), the school was not founded until 1975. [http://www.alltm.org/Maharishi/Maharishi_year2.html] John Gray, according to his lawyer&#8217;s letter, received both his Bachelor&#8217;s and Master&#8217;s degrees from that university with the latter being obtained in October 1977.  This means that between 1975, when the university was founded, and October 1977, he earned both degrees. It must have had those courses you could learn in your sleep.</p>
<p>As to Columbia Pacific University, the article discussing its shutdown plus a phone call to the appropriate State department should clarify whether what was published is accurate or not. In any event, John Gray really does not want the negative publicity that a suit against a blogger could bring, especially since smoke almost always leads to fire in the case of someone who has gone to two, not just one, diploma mills.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please think up another way to upset this idiot and let me do it.  I would relish the thought of a California Lawyer pursuing this in Ireland quoting the US constitution which is completely irrelevant to you.  In my local zoo there is a chimpanzee. he is very cheap and all you would need to get this crap thrown out to the hysterical amusement of all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please think up another way to upset this idiot and let me do it.  I would relish the thought of a California Lawyer pursuing this in Ireland quoting the US constitution which is completely irrelevant to you.  In my local zoo there is a chimpanzee. he is very cheap and all you would need to get this crap thrown out to the hysterical amusement of all.</p>
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		<title>By: sama</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2003/11/17/men-are-from-mars/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>sama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Hernon's original column appears to have been removed.  Unfortunately, not everyone's as brave as you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Hernon&#8217;s original column appears to have been removed.  Unfortunately, not everyone&#8217;s as brave as you are.</p>
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