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	<title>Comments on: What is the difference between hip hop and rap?</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Jr. James McClendon</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2004/04/11/what-is-the-difference-between-hip-hop-and-rap/comment-page-1/#comment-850547</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Jr. James McClendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is one was experienced by Jews and they got the most recognition and reparations for it, and the other was the &quot;middle passage&quot; created by the same people who where holocausted and exploited to make those who finance it all rich.  Difference is like the Jewish Hitler thing and the Middle Passage.  Who&#039;s getting the credit and all the money these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is one was experienced by Jews and they got the most recognition and reparations for it, and the other was the &#8220;middle passage&#8221; created by the same people who where holocausted and exploited to make those who finance it all rich.  Difference is like the Jewish Hitler thing and the Middle Passage.  Who&#8217;s getting the credit and all the money these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashten</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2004/04/11/what-is-the-difference-between-hip-hop-and-rap/comment-page-1/#comment-242193</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to be ignorant. People like you: i.e the consumer, ruined the hip hop industry. What happened to the positive social change associated with hip hop? Im not saying all rap is bad. I think there is alot of talent out there but i believe it could be used in a better way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to be ignorant. People like you: i.e the consumer, ruined the hip hop industry. What happened to the positive social change associated with hip hop? Im not saying all rap is bad. I think there is alot of talent out there but i believe it could be used in a better way.</p>
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		<title>By: RUBY</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUBY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 01:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FUCK WHO EVER DOESN&#039;T LIKE RAP. RAP IS THE BEST MUSIC THERE IS NOT LIKE THAT LOVY DUBY SHIT I LIKE HEARING THE HARD CORE SHIT NOT HEARING SHIT ABOUT FAGGETS. IF U DON&#039;T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF RAP I BE LISTENING TO.  YOUR STUPID LISTEN TO MAC DRE, E40 AND ALL THEM NIGGAS FROM THE BAY AREA, AND YOU&#039;LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKING ABOUT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FUCK WHO EVER DOESN&#8217;T LIKE RAP. RAP IS THE BEST MUSIC THERE IS NOT LIKE THAT LOVY DUBY SHIT I LIKE HEARING THE HARD CORE SHIT NOT HEARING SHIT ABOUT FAGGETS. IF U DON&#8217;T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF RAP I BE LISTENING TO.  YOUR STUPID LISTEN TO MAC DRE, E40 AND ALL THEM NIGGAS FROM THE BAY AREA, AND YOU&#8217;LL KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKING ABOUT.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaysscholar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaysscholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2005 06:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that you guys are either white people who only know of what you see on TV, or people ignorant rappers. I happen to love Hip-Hop and despise rap. Let me explain why.

Rap is what you see on TV. It&#039;s what sells. For the most part it&#039;s blacks acting out a stereotype. It&#039;s blacks killing each other, doing dugs, and degrading themselves to make  buck. After all, isn&#039;t that what mainstream likes to see? Stereotypes acted out. 

Hip-Hop is art. It&#039;s poetry set to rhythm. Hip-Hop Artists tend to speak on much serious topics than how much money they have and what type of car they drive. Consequently, they don&#039;t get airtime. Talking about politics and social ills aren&#039;t going to get you heard by mainstream. Hip-Hop is more focused on the artistic side. 

I just thought somebody who has actually submersed themselves in the music should clear that up for you.

Also if you don&#039;t know about something you probably shouldn&#039;t speak on it. I know nothing on chemical engineering so I don&#039;t alk about it. Just a suggestion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that you guys are either white people who only know of what you see on TV, or people ignorant rappers. I happen to love Hip-Hop and despise rap. Let me explain why.</p>
<p>Rap is what you see on TV. It&#8217;s what sells. For the most part it&#8217;s blacks acting out a stereotype. It&#8217;s blacks killing each other, doing dugs, and degrading themselves to make  buck. After all, isn&#8217;t that what mainstream likes to see? Stereotypes acted out. </p>
<p>Hip-Hop is art. It&#8217;s poetry set to rhythm. Hip-Hop Artists tend to speak on much serious topics than how much money they have and what type of car they drive. Consequently, they don&#8217;t get airtime. Talking about politics and social ills aren&#8217;t going to get you heard by mainstream. Hip-Hop is more focused on the artistic side. </p>
<p>I just thought somebody who has actually submersed themselves in the music should clear that up for you.</p>
<p>Also if you don&#8217;t know about something you probably shouldn&#8217;t speak on it. I know nothing on chemical engineering so I don&#8217;t alk about it. Just a suggestion</p>
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		<title>By: Kally</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2005 06:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  If anyone is STILL having trouble learning about breakdancing, you need to check out what this dude can do!! http://www.1wills.com/blog/archives/000116.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  If anyone is STILL having trouble learning about breakdancing, you need to check out what this dude can do!! <a href="http://www.1wills.com/blog/archives/000116.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.1wills.com/blog/archives/000116.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: francisco</title>
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		<dc:creator>francisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM FROM SANTO DOMINGO AND I READ THE ARTICLE,IF THE HIP HOP IS THE CULTURE
 AND RAP IS THE MUSIC WHY ALL THE RAPPERS FROM USA SAY HIP HOP.
 AND WHY THEY USE BOTH WORD. I DONT UNDERSTEN.  THANKES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM FROM SANTO DOMINGO AND I READ THE ARTICLE,IF THE HIP HOP IS THE CULTURE<br />
 AND RAP IS THE MUSIC WHY ALL THE RAPPERS FROM USA SAY HIP HOP.<br />
 AND WHY THEY USE BOTH WORD. I DONT UNDERSTEN.  THANKES.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rap is a beat (like rapping a stick on a hard surface, a drum for instance).  Interestingly enough, I believe that impoverished people (those lacking in the arts, specifically) -- since they are hungry for music and it isn&#039;t taught to them by their culture -- actually recreate music from the ground up... without studying it in school (graduates from the &quot;school of hard knocks&quot; as it were).  As such, it seems that rap is at the foundation of music just like drum beats are the rudiments of a song.  In this sense, however; rap doesn&#039;t describe a song (or rather, it is an incomplete example) though it might describe a music!

This is also to say, the rapper must surely have the beat and hear the rhythm of words in order comprehend LANGUAGE (which is also not taught to him in his culture... by the schools, for example).

So:  In addition to RAP (spoken rhythm) there exists lyrical rap (rap poetry, which may be no more or less than grunting -- emotions set to a beat).  And in such a case, you solidly arrive at the &quot;foundation&quot; of rap ... tribal dancing, or animism (to animate matter by imitating it, a rain dance, for instance).  In this way, rap becomes the IMITATION of sound.

Perhaps then you have bitching (women who repeat words without listening to the meaning of them)... or &quot;bum rap&quot; (probably a reference to the repetative sounds of one&#039;s Miranda Rights being read to them when they are being arrested and the feeling of meaninglessness this might inspire).

Rap has come to mean more than bitching, though (not withstanding the fact that &quot;bitching&quot; seems to adequately sum up what empoverished African Americans [and other repressed cultures, including women and convicts] might do so as to insure their rights).  It has come to signify &quot;wrapping up&quot; a matter (putting a beginning and end to it, and tying a bow on top).  This is to say:  The success of rap (as an art form) suggests that empoverished people everywhere can now look forward to &quot;affirmative action&quot; (defined -- the positive effect of bringing cause, via reason, to the public consciousness).

In this progression, rap becomes another name for communication (spoken word).  Our search for the tradition of music can now further be traced to preaching... even Gregorian Chanting and / or the orations of a High Priest (Egyptian, and prior).

This understanding does suggest that the worship of a High Priest preceded animism* (that the king was worshipped before people started worshipping animals and trees), and further suggests how the failure of a king to secure food for the tribe might have led to his demise.  And though this might seem irrelevant to the unfolding of our topic; my assertion that Eminem is the (literal) King of the World is explained thus:  Eminem has resurrected the tradition of the High Priest through his recreation of music from the ground up.

Music hath charms to soothe the savage beast.

*see King of the Woods, Frazer (The Golden Bough)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rap is a beat (like rapping a stick on a hard surface, a drum for instance).  Interestingly enough, I believe that impoverished people (those lacking in the arts, specifically) &#8212; since they are hungry for music and it isn&#8217;t taught to them by their culture &#8212; actually recreate music from the ground up&#8230; without studying it in school (graduates from the &#8220;school of hard knocks&#8221; as it were).  As such, it seems that rap is at the foundation of music just like drum beats are the rudiments of a song.  In this sense, however; rap doesn&#8217;t describe a song (or rather, it is an incomplete example) though it might describe a music!</p>
<p>This is also to say, the rapper must surely have the beat and hear the rhythm of words in order comprehend LANGUAGE (which is also not taught to him in his culture&#8230; by the schools, for example).</p>
<p>So:  In addition to RAP (spoken rhythm) there exists lyrical rap (rap poetry, which may be no more or less than grunting &#8212; emotions set to a beat).  And in such a case, you solidly arrive at the &#8220;foundation&#8221; of rap &#8230; tribal dancing, or animism (to animate matter by imitating it, a rain dance, for instance).  In this way, rap becomes the IMITATION of sound.</p>
<p>Perhaps then you have bitching (women who repeat words without listening to the meaning of them)&#8230; or &#8220;bum rap&#8221; (probably a reference to the repetative sounds of one&#8217;s Miranda Rights being read to them when they are being arrested and the feeling of meaninglessness this might inspire).</p>
<p>Rap has come to mean more than bitching, though (not withstanding the fact that &#8220;bitching&#8221; seems to adequately sum up what empoverished African Americans [and other repressed cultures, including women and convicts] might do so as to insure their rights).  It has come to signify &#8220;wrapping up&#8221; a matter (putting a beginning and end to it, and tying a bow on top).  This is to say:  The success of rap (as an art form) suggests that empoverished people everywhere can now look forward to &#8220;affirmative action&#8221; (defined &#8212; the positive effect of bringing cause, via reason, to the public consciousness).</p>
<p>In this progression, rap becomes another name for communication (spoken word).  Our search for the tradition of music can now further be traced to preaching&#8230; even Gregorian Chanting and / or the orations of a High Priest (Egyptian, and prior).</p>
<p>This understanding does suggest that the worship of a High Priest preceded animism* (that the king was worshipped before people started worshipping animals and trees), and further suggests how the failure of a king to secure food for the tribe might have led to his demise.  And though this might seem irrelevant to the unfolding of our topic; my assertion that Eminem is the (literal) King of the World is explained thus:  Eminem has resurrected the tradition of the High Priest through his recreation of music from the ground up.</p>
<p>Music hath charms to soothe the savage beast.</p>
<p>*see King of the Woods, Frazer (The Golden Bough)</p>
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		<title>By: Hip Hop Clothing Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hip Hop Clothing Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Rap is something you do Hip Hop is something you live”

God I love that quote!
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<p>God I love that quote!</p>
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