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	<description>Estd. in Ireland, July 2002</description>
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		<title>By: DisgracedMinister</title>
		<link>http://www.gavinsblog.com/2008/04/14/editing-world-news/#comment-456721</link>
		<dc:creator>DisgracedMinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant the mixture between blogs, newspapers, periodicals etc.

I actually interested how the foreign desk sets its agenda but not in any conspiratorial kind of way. I was just curious how the need to get a job done may conflict with getting important viewpoints out. 

Anyways i enjoyed the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant the mixture between blogs, newspapers, periodicals etc.</p>
<p>I actually interested how the foreign desk sets its agenda but not in any conspiratorial kind of way. I was just curious how the need to get a job done may conflict with getting important viewpoints out. </p>
<p>Anyways i enjoyed the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Sheridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Sheridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting question, and one I have often considered. 

I do tend to check various websites for the 'most read', 'most recommended' and 'most emailed'. Reuters, Yahoo News and the BBC all offer this service. Yahoo News has the most comprehensive I've found. 

http://news.yahoo.com/i/964;_ylt=Al9WYuiT_6n3j3arA0Rv9nRvaA8F

This gives an idea of what stories people are finding interesting... and sometimes quirky stories make it to the top. To allow for this though, our paper runs these stories seperately on the back page. 

In relation to editiorial discretion and how much influence it would have on myself, I would say that its dependent on the story. I guess it's a balancing act between stories that are 'important' (or those I find important), and those ones people are actually clicking on. 

For example the US-centred Yahoo News most viewed:

http://news.yahoo.com/ms/1776;_ylt=Au0gBzmpOu64_XiIjxLgP3EDW7oF

Over half of those stories would feature regardless of their popularity, simpy because they are important. Picking other ones to sit alongside the 'big' stories is a matter for the editor. 

I would imagine other newspaper also look at these figures, though I guess that would also be dependent on how old the person is, and how digitally 'native' they are, to put it in Murdoch parlance.

For example yesterday I featured the story on earthquakes as a brief:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jGtNgeoxLtX_60kT7_7qa2Kkj55AD900250O0

Partly this was because it was one of the most read stories yesterday, and partly because it was pretty interesting anyway. But then it was probably most viewed &lt;i&gt;because &lt;/i&gt;it was interesting. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting question, and one I have often considered. </p>
<p>I do tend to check various websites for the &#8216;most read&#8217;, &#8216;most recommended&#8217; and &#8216;most emailed&#8217;. Reuters, Yahoo News and the BBC all offer this service. Yahoo News has the most comprehensive I&#8217;ve found. </p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/i/964;_ylt=Al9WYuiT_6n3j3arA0Rv9nRvaA8F" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/i/964;_ylt=Al9WYuiT_6n3j3arA0Rv9nRvaA8F</a></p>
<p>This gives an idea of what stories people are finding interesting&#8230; and sometimes quirky stories make it to the top. To allow for this though, our paper runs these stories seperately on the back page. </p>
<p>In relation to editiorial discretion and how much influence it would have on myself, I would say that its dependent on the story. I guess it&#8217;s a balancing act between stories that are &#8216;important&#8217; (or those I find important), and those ones people are actually clicking on. </p>
<p>For example the US-centred Yahoo News most viewed:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/ms/1776;_ylt=Au0gBzmpOu64_XiIjxLgP3EDW7oF" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/ms/1776;_ylt=Au0gBzmpOu64_XiIjxLgP3EDW7oF</a></p>
<p>Over half of those stories would feature regardless of their popularity, simpy because they are important. Picking other ones to sit alongside the &#8216;big&#8217; stories is a matter for the editor. </p>
<p>I would imagine other newspaper also look at these figures, though I guess that would also be dependent on how old the person is, and how digitally &#8216;native&#8217; they are, to put it in Murdoch parlance.</p>
<p>For example yesterday I featured the story on earthquakes as a brief:</p>
<p><a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jGtNgeoxLtX_60kT7_7qa2Kkj55AD900250O0" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jGtNgeoxLtX_60kT7_7qa2Kkj55AD900250O0</a></p>
<p>Partly this was because it was one of the most read stories yesterday, and partly because it was pretty interesting anyway. But then it was probably most viewed <i>because </i>it was interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting post, gavin. I'm not on the editorial side and have very little experience of working in print so would appreciate hearing more of your take on the job.

I've long since given up attempting to work out how the foreign pages set their agenda. There's such a range of top stories on the uk broadsheets, largely dependent on the paper's individual ideology. I'm intrigued, however, by the possibility that foreign desks could use the online uptake of their copy to influence their decision as to the weight they give a story - ie if there's huge interest in an online piece, how much does that effect where it's placed (if at all) in the paper? What are your thoughts?

The rundown in broadcast news is generally pretty uniform: the top three stories are usually the same no matter the outlet, although the order may differ. Foreign news is a different beast.

And before I forget - well done, mate. Nice wee step up the ladder, and in an area that you clearly have the cojones and knowledge to make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting post, gavin. I&#8217;m not on the editorial side and have very little experience of working in print so would appreciate hearing more of your take on the job.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long since given up attempting to work out how the foreign pages set their agenda. There&#8217;s such a range of top stories on the uk broadsheets, largely dependent on the paper&#8217;s individual ideology. I&#8217;m intrigued, however, by the possibility that foreign desks could use the online uptake of their copy to influence their decision as to the weight they give a story - ie if there&#8217;s huge interest in an online piece, how much does that effect where it&#8217;s placed (if at all) in the paper? What are your thoughts?</p>
<p>The rundown in broadcast news is generally pretty uniform: the top three stories are usually the same no matter the outlet, although the order may differ. Foreign news is a different beast.</p>
<p>And before I forget - well done, mate. Nice wee step up the ladder, and in an area that you clearly have the cojones and knowledge to make it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Sheridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Sheridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean actual physical space on a page. Trying to squeeze five stories into a small page with bigs ads is pushing it... Stories can be edited down, but only so much. 

Not sure what you mean by online?

Unfortunately the resources needed for a translation service like that would be rather large, and most newspapers would not do that. I know some periodicals do that though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean actual physical space on a page. Trying to squeeze five stories into a small page with bigs ads is pushing it&#8230; Stories can be edited down, but only so much. </p>
<p>Not sure what you mean by online?</p>
<p>Unfortunately the resources needed for a translation service like that would be rather large, and most newspapers would not do that. I know some periodicals do that though.</p>
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		<title>By: DisgracedMinister</title>
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		<dc:creator>DisgracedMinister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you say "more space" do you mean that the article contained more in depth analysis rather than just the bare minimum of facts?

Also do you think of what people can access on the internet and try to differentiate the reading experience from the online pick and mix? 

Oh and one more thing I would love to see in a newspaper is stories written in foreign papers, especially China. They do it here in Japan sometimes but Japanese newspapers are focused mainly on domestic affairs.

Sorry for the long question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you say &#8220;more space&#8221; do you mean that the article contained more in depth analysis rather than just the bare minimum of facts?</p>
<p>Also do you think of what people can access on the internet and try to differentiate the reading experience from the online pick and mix? </p>
<p>Oh and one more thing I would love to see in a newspaper is stories written in foreign papers, especially China. They do it here in Japan sometimes but Japanese newspapers are focused mainly on domestic affairs.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long question.</p>
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