In a predictable piece, Ronan Mullen argues that Liz O’Donnell’s speech last week in the Dail amounted to a liberal attack on the Church. After a fairly incoherent argument (even I am guilty of that sometimes) he concludes:
By presenting an outdated notion of a priest-ridden society, in order to exclude the Church from consultation on sensitive social issues, O’Donnell was doing us all a disservice. “Get off the stage and make it easier for us ‘liberals’ to get our point across,” would appear to be her message to the Church.
Now that would be a cosy arrangement.
I’ll nail my colours to the mast here. I am an agnostic humanist, and find the power the Catholic Church continues to have in the Irish State to be regrettable. So I agree completely with O’Donnell, perhaps she should have even been more vocal.
Have a listen(Realplayer) to Vincent Browne last week, November 9th. Browne does a very good job taking apart the position of the priest on the show, who made laughable excuses concerning the lack of action on the part of the Church. In fact, the interview is a demonstration of Browne’s ability to bring in a guest and completely wipe the floor with him.
Father Vincent Twomey of Maynooth wrote an article in the Irish Times the day previously.
He peddles the ‘learning curve’ argument, that Vincent successfully rubbishes. Jim O’Keefe TD, Mark Hennessy, Dan Neville TD and Prof Michael Fitzgerald are on the panel also.
If you have 30 minutes to spare I suggest you listen to the start – at 8.20, and continue to the 38th minute. Vincent grabs onto the idea that the bishops insured their dioceses against claims made by people against the clergy as far back as 1987 up to 1990. From then on Vincent Twomey is on the defensive, and in a way tries to defend the indefensible. By the end this exchange occurs:
Twomey: You took up my statement about the learning curve and took it completely out of context
Browne: Ohhhh really now, explain that now
Twomey: The thing is that…
Browne: Explain…explain how this was taken out of context…
Twomey: Because, because I am trying to, I am trying to explain how…
Browne: I think you are digging a hole now but anyways, go on
Twomey: I’ll stop, I withdraw that remark.