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Green Party Ard Fheis 2009

I made it here this morning and am updating on Twitter with the hashtag #gp09. You can also follow over at Scribble.

12.30: Got a good picture of Senator Dan Boyle playing with an iPhone before he takes to the stage shortly.

15.40: Someone in the Green party has apparently let slip that the date of the emergency budget will be April 2. A government spokesman refused to confirm the date. The date might be changed now.

15.55: Uploaded the Patricia McKenna video:

16.00: Eamon Ryan comes into the press room to answer questions. Towards the end of the clip he is asked about the April 2 budget date. Video up:

Mary White tee up:

Gormley as he leaves:

Everyone stops to watch RTE news, including de hacks:

Ideas Campaign

What a crock. It was launched on Prime Time last night by Aileen O’Toole, co-founder of The Sunday Business Post.

In submitting an idea you also agree to its publication in any form by The Ideas Campaign. By submitting the idea you are thereby granting The Ideas Campaign the perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive right to use, reproduce, copy, modify, edit, translate, publish, display, post, transmit, distribute or part company with your submitted idea without any compensation to you, anonymously or in the aggregate, for internal or external purposes, alone or as part of other works in any form, media or technology.

The Ideas Campaign reserves the right without notice and for any reason not to respond to or use ideas or comments submitted to The Ideas Campaign. Visitors who do not give accurate email addresses or complete the relevant forms fully will not have submissions considered.

So you setup a website to get ideas from the public. And by so doing, the public loses any right to profit from their ideas, and hands them over to the website they submitted the idea to.

Eh, no.

The Pin discusses.

Anglo question

Maybe someone out there can lend a hand. I was re-reading the Moriarty Report and came across this:

The genesis of Guinness Mahon Cayman Trust Limited, and how it became a bank in its own right, has already been referred to. In 1984 it was sold by Guinness & Mahon (Ireland) Limited to Guinness Mahon & Co. Limited in London, its parent company. The following year it was sold on to a consortium, which included Mr. Traynor, Mr. Furze and Mr. Collins. In turn they sold a 75% interest to a London bank called Henry Ansbacher & Company, a member of the Ansbacher Group, and the name of the bank was changed to Ansbacher Limited. Its title was since changed again to Ansbacher Cayman Limited, and the remaining 25% interest was also sold to the Ansbacher Group, which itself was later sold to the First National Bank of South Africa.

So in 1985 Traynor, Furze and Collins sold 75% of Guinness Mahon & Co to Henry Ansbacher & Co. The name of the the company changed to Ansbacher Limited, and subsequently the title changed to Ansbacher Cayman Limited. The remaining 25% of the bank was then also sold to the Ansbacher Group, which Henry Ansbacher & Company was part of.

Ansbacher Group, which now owned Ansbacher Limited/Ansbacher Cayman, was then sold to First National Bank of South Africa.

In 1998 the financial services interests of Rand Merchant Bank Holdings and Anglo-American Corporation were merged to form FirstRand Limited, which is now what First National Bank is known as.

A few years ago FirstRand then sold Ansbacher to a Bahrain-based bank.

Now the Anglo website says:

This acquisition was completed in March 1996. Ansbacher (not connected with Henry Ansbacher, London) was established in Ireland in 1950 and provided a full range of banking and investment services. At the time of its acquisition Ansbacher had total assets of EUR 241 million, a deposit portfolio of EUR 222 million and a loan book of EUR 98 million.

I find that odd. There certainly was an Ansbacher and Co (85 Merrion Square; 52 Lower Lesson St) in Ireland in the 1950s, and it was acquired in 1996 by Anglo Irish Bank (later approved in 2000 by Charlie McCreevy). But does that mean that by the mid 1980s there were, for some time at least, two banks operating in Ireland, one called Ansbacher Limited, and the other called Ansbacher Bankers Limited?

The address of Ansbacher Bankers is now listed as the same address as Anglo Irish Bank, according to the CRO.

Stewart on CNBC

Dempsey and Fitzpatrick

I was interested to note the following:

On June 13, 2002, it was reported that outgoing Minister for the Environment Noel Dempsey made his appointments to the Dublin Docklands Development Authority. The appointments were:

Lar Bradshsaw (Re-appointed chairman)
Angela Cavendish (Alexsam Corporate Finance)
Donal Curtin (Accountant of Byrne Curtin Kelly)
Declan McCourt (Auto dealer OHM Group)
Niamh O’Sullivan (Arup)
Sean Fitzpatrick (Anglo Irish Bank)
Mary Moylan (Asst Sec Dep of Env)
Joan O’Connor (Interactive Project Managers)

Shane Ross responds

Says Ross in last Sunday’s Independent:

LAST April I met a hotshot Dublin businessman in a southside pub. He was not a household name but — at that time — he was as rich as Croesus. And he was angry at a piece I had written about Anglo Irish Bank.

The meeting was cloak and dagger stuff. He was not keen be seen with me; but he wanted to warn that those who were attacking Anglo would get their comeuppance. He wished to see the story in print.

The hotshot revealed that a group of his well-heeled cronies were determined to set up a revenge fund to punish all those short-sellers who had targeted Anglo. These guys had a sense of ownership: his friends were going to defend “their” bank at all costs. Those standing in the way would be swept aside by the flood of money. Enemies of Anglo would have their fingers badly burnt.

The plan was tinged with emotion; consequently it was all a bit vague, but the plot had been hatched in a Dublin hotel. A figure of €500m directly raised from the “lads” was mentioned. More would be borrowed in order to ensure success.

I still do not know today if this was the birth of the infamous Anglo 10, but I suspect that it bore the seed of the latest scandal.

I blogged Ross’s April article last week. Unfortunately he does not reveal who this Croesus figure is. What is also interesting about the language Ross uses. In April last year it was “big builders and entrepreneurs” and “consortium”. Now it’s “cronies”, “plot”, and “cloak and dagger”.

We have also since learned that the meeting between Brian Cowen and Anglo directors on April 24 (according to a FG spokesman and not denied), was the same day as this meeting between Anglo “cronies” to organise a share support operation. What a coincidence.

Tubridy and blogging

I had a listen to Damien, Suzy and Val on the Tubridy show earlier. And I have to say, I felt embarrassed for Mr Tubridy.

Last time I checked the year was 2009.

But it was as if Tubridy was in 2004 or 2005 and blogging was still all new and shiny. I was asked similar questions on radio shows four years ago. In fact over the years I’ve been asked to go on the radio and explain what blogging is a few times, and once even on television with Richard and Mick and others.

And the questions were understandable back then, blogging was in its infancy, and it was right to pose some of those questions. But even back then the questions weren’t near as juvenile as Tubridy’s rather uneducated questions. Blogging has moved on since the early days, as has the internet.

Blogging, especially in the US because it really started there, has matured immensely. All of the top political journals and magazines, national daily papers, weeklies… almost everything, uses daily updated blogs to engage with their readers. Because it’s a no brainer. Just like it’s a no brainer for George Hook to engage with listeners on Twitter. And just like it’s a no brainer for Tubridy to engage with his listeners and viewers, if he understood it.

But Tubridy goes back to the usual silly questions despite blogging having evolved and moved on, leaving Tubridy behind. He simply doesn’t get it, it really is that simple. And I have to wonder, if he hasn’t got it by now, will he ever get it? Will he always be scared of the internets?

Damien, Suzy and Val did a good job not rising to what seemed to me to be rather silly attempts at creating controversy where there is none.

Update: Karlin had similar thoughts to myself.

Liveblogging FF

I have to ask this because I was showing some of my fellow bloggers at the Fianna Fail Ard Fheis the figures. How many people were following the liveblogging exactly? It’s not an easy thing to measure, but some of the indications are pretty surprising.

I was taking photos with my iPhone and tweeting them, while tagging with the agreed #ffaf. The first picture I took, of Mark Coughlan in the media centre, has had over 1,000 views. Further photos I took while Lenihan et al were speaking live on television, received similar numbers. This one of Mary Coughlan got 888 views. This one of Lenihan got another 762 views. A picture of Suzy at her laptop got 633 views.

I am pretty amazed by those figures, I had no idea so many people were following the conversation.

Sobering figures

Irish companies laid off 6,337 workers last month, an increase of 123% on the year- earlier period, the government said today.

And the sobering bit:

Irish alcohol consumption declined 6% in 2008, the Drinks Industry Group of Ireland said in an e-mailed statement today.

Alcohol consumption in Ireland is now back to 1997 levels, the group said. The amount of cider consumed fell 11%, while liquor volumes dropped 7.7% and beer volumes fell 5%.


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